Lack Of Intrest In 17hmr

[Evan]

It sure seems like there is quite a bit of lack of intrest in the 17hmr on this site? or maybe just no talk about them. I wanted one when they first came out, and I didnt have 22mag, so the logical choice was to get the 17 instead of hte tried and true 22mag. I offcourse bought the little 17 in ruger rifle, at the time they only offerd one model(walnut stock, 22" standerd barrel) they now offer a one in skeleton stock and 22" barrel, along with grey laminated heavy barrel version, ohhhhhhh and alos a lever action, whatever they call them, heck they even chamberd a pistol for it.

when I first was trying to get ammo I was kinda outa luck, got lucky found the rifle, but didnt have any ammo for awhile because none was available. now ammo is available kinda pricey but sitn on the selfs in all the major sporting goods stores and gunshops.

from what I have seen shooting back to back with a friend who has the same rifle in 22mag, is that the 17 shoots inside of it by half, the 22mag had slicked up trigger and mine wasnt, the 22 would pepper 9 shots into a 1.5"s hole at 100yds, while the 17 did half that a 3/4" jaged hole. at 50yds is even better.

I have takn some game with it, badger is the bigest I have killed with it and it did quite well considering badger is thick skinned and will to live is strong in them took him at about 75s, laying down on the bipod, cracked one off and the badger dropped with legs kicking not spinning circles or anything just kicking, might have been nerves, so I sent anoter round almost istantly, wich finished it off, its alos killed numbers flying things with one shot, and I intent to take a coyote or two with it when the chance arises.

Im not trying to take anything from the 22mag Im just wondering why not many on this site seem to be interested in the 17. its newness is finaly wearing off and ammo is becoming available and so are the rifles. theres a wide selectong from bolt action semi autos, or convertting 10/22mags to 10/17hmrs with a barrel swap and nothing esle.

well I got to get back to lunch, just thought Id try and stir the 17hmr topic alittle,
have a good one

Evan

[rojo36]

Evan I have never been one to buy a gun unless I had a use for it and with the .17 cal I don't have a use that one of my other guns won't do better in my opinion and are less expensive to shoot. A box of 50 for my 212 bee runs me about $6.25 and will do every bit as well as a 17.

[outlaw from Idaho]

Evan, the 17 Hornady is anice rimfire round. I myself would get a 223rem before getting a 17. As for squirrels and small stuff I get buy just fine with my Ruger 10/22 and for a lot less money. What the hay, if you like go for it and you did.. I think its a great small game round and they do shoot flater then the 22mag. If the ammo comes down in price to say five dollers for 50 I may pick up a Marlin in the 17 horn myself.Outlaw

[Elkein]

Heck the ammo is sold out darn near every where. There are many rifles and pistols being made and sold. I think that more ammo needs to be loaded up, winchester has the technology, soon I'm sure they'll see the market too. With slightly lower prices the 17HMR is set to be a permanent caliber if not taking a chunk of 22lr's market share in three years.

[Evan]

remington is sposebly saleing there own version of the 17hmr with a green tip i think, therese been some proof they might actualy do it, so a picture of the 17hmr ammo in remington box on the remington site, atleast there thinkn about it I guess.

yeah your right the 17 pills are sold out all over, you just gota be there at the right time, lol,

it sure seems to tickle my fancy and Im sure it will get more noticed later on down the road, but untill then Ill have fun shootin the little 17 with out ya alls. and keep you posted.

[outlaw from Idaho]

Evan, sounds good to me hope Remington makes the ammo,could bring the price down. keep up the good shooting,Outlaw.

[Evan]

crrrrrrrrrrraaaaaaccccccccck chaulk up a couple more starlings and magpipe.

shot eh magpie percehd at the top of the tree, it was sitting on the far side of the tree from me and I somehow managed to weed the little 17 through the branches and make contact,

whhhhhhhhhho getn back into shooting alittle more serious is fun. expsecaily since dang near everything I hold the crosshairs on is whooping, ohhhhh one of the starlings was at 154 yds I paced after the shot. held on its head shot it in the chest.

[jd500]

Thats some pretty good shootin!!! I can only shoot dead on at 50 yards with my semi auto 10/22

[outlaw from Idaho]

Evan,sounds like you'll be hard to beat in the squirrel fields, Outlaw.

[Beargrease]

Evan,

Remington does indeed make 17 HMR ammo now. They also make a 597 auto in 17 HMR. Would that be a good rat rifle or what?

[Evan]

yeah the 597 would make a great rate rifle, to along with rugers 10/17 that so many people are converting from 10/22mags


you guys with ruger 22mags can try a 17 for 135 bucks, thats how much a green mtn heavy fluted barrel is going for, itl toss on 77/22m or 10/22mag

and let me tell you you wont be dissapointed

Evan

[the long ranger]

Ive been planning on building a "itty bitty bullet gun" for a while. 10/22 converted of course, with all the bells and whistles. Clark Custom Guns has a nice midweight barrel for the 10/17. Its a tad pricey at $200 but Ive heard nothing but good about their barrels.
BTW, 77/22 barrels are slightly different than the 10/22 barrels. They can be used on the 10/22 but you have to shim them.

[Evan]

yeah you have to shim them,

but there are a few manufactures that arent offering the 10/17 barels yet, I ve heard this is because ruger hasnt yet chamberd a 10/17, why there takeing there sweet time about chambring the 10/17 I dont know.

Evan

[the long ranger]

It must be a liability issue. I contacted Scott at Volquartsen Custom about the 10/17 barrel and was told it wouldnt be released prior to Rugers 10/17. Only options I know of right now are either Clarke or Lilja that make drop in 10/17 barrels. Pick your poison, the Clarke price starts at $200, and the Lilja price starts at $325. Outside of the price factor Ive been hearing about the Lilja barrels having a lot of case swelling. That doesnt seem like a good thing. Makes me wonder about his chambers.
Im really liking the looks of that Clarke .720 Midweight barrel.

[Evan]

hmmmmmmmmmmmm

all i know is if i had ruger 22mag in 77 or 10/22 Id be swapn on barrel. I could almost maybe see geten a 10/22mag just so i could convert it, but man the mags are spendy new plus another 200 or 325 bucks to convert, or shim, Im not real fond of that idea.
let me know how your turns out. yeah a mid weight barrel would be great, I cant hardly see going with a heavy barrel when rugers pencil 17 barel will put em through one hole. or dang close.

Evan

[7mm-08]

I just went and had a look on the Volquartsen site and they had the 17HMR listed on there in a number of models, including the pistol. They have reports of 5 shot groups of .5" at 100yrds. I think i wanna get me one of these!!! I had been looking into a .22mag last yr before the .17 came out but now I have seen what these babies can do I definately know what i want!!!
Has anyone on this site got or had experience with a Volquartsen rifle???
Cheers
7mm-08

[the long ranger]

7mm-08, if you can afford to spend $1000 on a .17HMR then you wont be dissapointed in the Volquartsen. Several of the guys over at RFC have them and swear that their isnt another semi-auto rifle that can outshoot it.

Evan, soon as its in my budget Im buying a brand new 10/22 mag for the conversion (sure would be nice to find a used one). Its a bit spendy like you said, but with the accuracy of the Clarke barrel and all the other tuning I will be doing to it it will be more accurate than a Ruger built 10/17 anyway. Plus nobody knows when Ruger is letting the 10/17 out onto the market.

Then theres the Ruger thing, rumor has it that Ruger isnt planning on releasing a 10/17. Why you ask? Case head swelling. The bolt guns do it too, but the higher pressure of the little 17 is pushing the semiauto bolts back and allowing plenty of space to swell. The rim looks like a baloon. I tried to find some good pictures of the swolen heads, but I cant seem to right now.

[Beargrease]

I see that Smith and Wesson makes two revolvers in 17 HMR. Both are Model 647 in stainless steel. One has a 8 3/4" barrel with iron sights. The other has a 12" fluted barrel with iron sights and a scope mounting rail built right in. You wouldn't need a rifle to hunt rats any more. ;barney

[Evan]

now were chirpn,

Im not a real big fan of 10/22s but like the 17s enough to wan a semi auto one and it would be 10/17, I bet you could com idaho and find at most 4 10/22 mags, people dont give em up.

yes .5" at 100yds is common a calm day with the windy blowing its still 3/4-1.5 depending on the wind and it being consistent or gusting.

[outlaw from Idaho]

Evan, as good as that 17hrn shoots have you missed any critters yet with it ? Outlaw

[CSA]

while in St Louis last tue. i went to bass pro just to look at the 17 they had none but a few boxs of ammo at 17.50 a box Ouch i think i will just stick with my 10/22 for tree rats and tin cans.