The Rolls Royce Of Callers??

[mifox]

I have been doing some intense shopping for the best electronic predator caller I can get. If you get what you pay for, foxpro, loudmouth, and the one from Wildlife Technologies must be the top 3. The one from Wildlife Technologies is THE highest priced unit on the market. Is it as good as their advertising promotes it to be? With fur prices what they are, it MIGHT easily pay for itself in one season. Their 15 day money back guarantee and 90 limited warranty are unimpressive compared to FIVE YEARS for the loudmouth caller. My question; Does anyone on this forum have(or know someone who does) first hand knowledge of the quality and effectiveness of the caller from Wildlife Technoligies? Thank you.

[Jerry]

Personally I woould stay away from Wildlife tecnologies. Although they have a good caller it's the owner that is the biggest butthead around. I had to ban him from oour site a few years back.

The loudmouth is a good caller also. I think you'd be impressed. But I'm alos a big beliver in the new MP3 player by Western Rivers called the Predation. It's as small as the FoxPro and Loudmouth, but easier to change the soounds. It allows you to add sounds direct from your computer and easy to do by a USB cable. Plus it price is unbeatable at only $259.00 with remote control. Most other start at $500+ with remote control.

You will get a lot of opinions on which caller to get, but I believe most will tell you that the owner of WT is not worth dealing with. We had one memeber that had placed an order for one and had it on order for over 6 months. Then one day he announce he would not sell one to him. Never gave a reason, but made it public on this board before he called our member to let him know he wouldn't sell him one.

By the way Welcome to HuntSeek mlfox.

[hunter]

Do you have any samples of what this Predation caller may sound like?

[tcoop]

I have the Fox Pro. It works pretty well, but I have had trouble a couple of times with the remote. If you don't have a straight line to it, it will not work.
Even a tuft of grass will kill it.


I have been thinking about giving the Loudmouth a try. But I agree with Jerry on the WT. I'm pretty sure that this is not the only board that guy has been banned from. Seems he was just out to pick a fight. (By the way, thanks Jerry for keeping this a friendly board. When we were together 'yote huntin', BigJ, Myk and I were commenting on that is the reason we are still at this board and not some others.)

The best feature I like about any e-caller, is the remote. I like the fact that you can get the sound 50-100 yards away from you so the incoming predators aren't focused directly on you.

I still believe the best calls are the mouth calls if you practice with them.

tcoop

[Rich]

I had a slight problem with my first Loudmouth, and I really believe it was just in the sound board. The owner of Loudmouth calls (Wayne Buckley) sent me out a whole new caller right away. Wayne has been in the hospital, and unable to respond to minor complaints that have popped up with some of the new callers.

I'm afraid that I can't be of much help here. I owned one of the first Fox Pro's and had problems getting out past 50 yards with the remote. They tell me that the new Fox Pro's are much better than the original's. My friend Coycaller has gone back to mouth calls because at least those little buggers are reliable. :)

[frank]

I have a WT. I have never had any problems with it, the remote works from a long way away and I have never had any issues with the company/owner. My 2 cents.

[Jerry]

I've added a poll to this topic to see what caller everyone thinks is their Rolls Royce caller.

If there are more let me know and I'll add them to the choices.

[MatthewMB]

I bought the LoudMouth because many said it's the best. That was two years ago.
I now see others on the market.

I think the quality of the LoudMouth is great. But, I'd prefer to drop the sounds on via a direct USB link.
Also, the remote I have doesn't have an on/off. I have to take out and put back in the battery once each day to "wake it up".

But, I really like it a lot. Too expensive for most buyers though.
Also, I bought a 6-pack cooler from Walmart in camo for about $2 which is great to carry it in. Nice peace of mind with the padding.

ps: I've collected quite a few sounds. It would be nice to trade a bunch....

[Jerry]

Welcome to HuntSeek Matthew.

I thought the Loudmouth was supposed to be able to change sounds with an USB cable. Been a while since I seen once since they orginally came out.

[Jerry]

I know this is a very old thread.

Just thought I'd bring it back up to see what everyone thought which caller might be the Rolls Royce today.

[Mossyhorns]

Everything i hear about the fox pro. Is suppose to be the best on the market to date. Hard to justify paying the 600-700 bucks for a caller, unless it's used in a outfitting biz, such as pred hunting.

I use mostly mouth calls myself. Just dropped a yote yesterday with the newer 22-250. 1st stand with-in the first 2 minutes. I have a skunk hide that has been tanned. And i converted it into a decoy to give them something to focus on.

I'll get pic's uploaded here in a bit.

[Jerry]

I've been so out of touch over the last year I don't know what is good any longer.

I was looking for the loudmouth this morning on the net. Couldn't find anything that was new. Are they even still around?

[Mossyhorns]

I haven't seen anything on the shelves around here in the Loudmouth. Was just talking to a fella at the gun shop about coyote hunting. He said his group uses a Fox Pro too.

Maybe it just wasn't marketed around my area as much.

With pred hunting becoming market for outfitters. There are new companies jumping on board in the electonic calls. A lot of them still have to be field proven IMO

[Rich]

The LoudMouth caller is history. I tested a couple of Bandit callers for Minaska outdoors, and had no complaints with either of them. Right now I am testing a couple of callers from FoxPro. They are the FX-5 and the new Scorpion. These are both top notch callers for certain. :^

[Jerry]

Hey Rich -

What happened to the Loudmouth. I thought it was going to be a good caller. When did they stop manufacturing?

[Rich]

Jerry,
Wayne has been out of business for quite awhile. Health problems I think. I had no complaints with my Loudmouth caller, but sold it awhile back anyway.

[Jerry]

Rich -

Got a way to contact Wayne? If so let me know.

[Rich]

Jerry,
I guess I lost my E mail address for Wayne, but look what I DID find.
http://www.zianet.com/LOUDMOUTH/

:^

[Mossyhorns]

Hello Mr Cronk !! Good to see you here again. Still out chasing after yotes ?

How you been doing ?

[Rich]

Howdy there MossyHorns, good to see ya again. I am still above grass, but feel like crap. Fubar comes to mind.

[skoalmint]

Anyone who says that the foxpro is the best caller has obviously NEVER heard a Wildlife Technologies or is just trying to justify the way over inflated price that they paid on the Foxpro.

No other E-caller can produce sounds as clear and loud as the WT period.

The foxpro sound list is mostly man made sounds (not very good) while every sound from WT is an actual animal recording being reproduced at near perfect as possible.

Minaska is up and coming in the E-caller market and frankly builds a better more solid unit with better components all around. The 100 sounds plus FREE downloads for life is a big plus also.

I guess if there are alot of easily called animals in your area anything will call them, but for people who want to research before they buy or want a quality unit that is the same or about the same price, they can do much better with another brand.

To each his own but don't be fooled!

[rojo36]

Guess we have some educated coyotes around here because I havent done much with my callers ,the few I have taken around here were all on handmade calls a friend gave me .
Welcome to the forum Skoalmint always good to see a new hunter . Rojo

[Rich]

"Anyone who says that the foxpro is the best caller has obviously NEVER heard a Wildlife Technologies or is just trying to justify the way over inflated price that they paid on the Foxpro."
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Sorry SkoalMint, but you are full of horse pucky. There have been recent side by side testing of the three top selling E callers, and your claim does not hold water. Nothing wrong with W.T. callers now mind you, they just ain't the all mighty King anymore. W.T. was King back in the 1990,s, but their recent remote control downgrade, and their choice of TOA speakers has placed them about equal to Minaska and FoxPro. Now if Martz would knock off his false advertising, he might sell more callers.

[skoalmint]

Are you talking about the comparison from what 2005? From a person who is obviously a foxpro lover.

Are you not a foxpro staffer?

[outlaw from Idaho]

skoalmint, Good to have you here. I guess to each his or her own. You like yours and thats why there's a bunch of callers out there so we can choose what we want .

You may drive a Chevy and Joe may drive a Ford and thats your and his choice.

I don't use anything but hand calls for 40 years and always will and thats my choice. I don't care that you don't use hand calls if thats your choice.

You may have called way over a 1,000 coyotes and I have only taken 800 or there abouts with a hand call. My best day I called 13 coyotes and shot 8 the next day after that called 7 and shot 5 made $650. in two days of fun.

I started calling when I was about 12 or 13 years old and now I'm 60 and still going strong. Went in the Army in 1965 so I could go to Vietnam and hunt things over there .

O'well thats a nuff BS for today. Still glad you came too huntseek and stop by often and tell use some storys. What do you use to take your coyotes with? Outlaw from Idaho :^

[Rich]

SkoalMint,
I am talking about honest side by side testing that has been ongoing for a few years now. You can find the thread over on P.M., in electronic call forum. You will find the testing to be unbiased, and honest. I am one of the lucky folks who had the opportunity to hunt over one of the first W.T. callers that appeared to be using a guitar amp for a speaker. I also hunted over W.T.'s back pack model. Both of those calls had sound quality that was second to none, and they used the now unavailable remote control which produced unequaled long range reliability. The remote they use now is about equal to those used by Minaska and FoxPro. W.T. still has some real good coyote vocalizations,and a few good prey distress sounds. They have a good caller, I will give them that, but it certainly is not superior to a Minaska Big Country, or FoxPro FX-5. ;)

[skoalmint]

I have read those comparisons over on the other site, I wouldn't call them unbiased.

It is know around the caller comunity that the author is in bed with foxpro and also that the other site is foxpro controlled for the most part.

I am not gonna say someone should buy this or that because in the end it is not my $. I will say to be careful of the leg humpers and research things as much as one can. What is popular because of a 6 figure advertising budget and a bunch of bandwagoners may not be the best choice.

B.T.W. I have hunted with them all. and if I had the $ to spend right now, Minaska or WT would be where I would go. Again, thats me.:^

[Jerry]

Welcome to HuntSeek, skoalmint. Glad to have ya here.

The WT as we all have been told many times over that it is a good caller. The FoxPro I never really liked. Of course all I ever had of the FoxPro where the old ones in a flashlight box.

Now what I have liked is the Western rivers Predation caller. Which I still use today. Except I need a new battery. the old one finally died. I haven't called in 1000 or even 800 coyotes. I just don't get to hunt for them very often. I know there's not a lot of people that like the Western Rivers Predation model, but it's been good for the little coyote hunting I do. Also I wouldn't want to take it anywhere it's cold. The hard plastic case I'm sure would freeze and break on the first drop. Luckily I live in the warm south of Texas.

[Jerry]

Keep in mind I have still never seen a Minaska or heard one.

Did the Loudmouth never make it?

[Rich]

"It is know around the caller comunity that the author is in bed with foxpro"
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SkoalMint.
If you really believe THAT, I have an Interstate bridge to sell ya. The man who is doing all of the testing is using his very own money to buy the calls he is testing. He is only interested in the real truth, that's all. :^

[Jerry]

Who is doing all this testing?

[Rich]

Jerry,
He goes by Snowcamoman at P.M. and he does a nice job of explaining everything he is doing during the tests.
http://www.predatormastersforums.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=52172310&an=0&page=0#52172310

[skoalmint]

They guy in Alaska. The guy who E-mails people to buy him a WT because the owner knows that he is buying them to pass the info along to FP. The guy who E-mails people for pics of the insides of the WT units, again to pass along. His antics have been talked about in many of forums.

[Jerry]

I can't believe that FoxPro hasn't already bought a WT and taken it apart. It's called checking and knowing your competition.

Passing on this info seems very immaterial.

[Jerry]

Okay I read the thread posted, but found it having no real information posted about any caller. All they are really talking about are the remotes. Nothing really about the caller and how it functions.

skoalmint until now I have never heard of the guy. You seem to be helping his cause. But if you have any useful information about the WT and any comparisons you've completed, post them here. I'll listen as well someone else.

[skoalmint]

I just wrote out a big comparison as I see it from using and owning the 3. The forum totally lost it when I submitted it. I really don't feel like retyping it all. but to me.

#1 WT GREAT GREAT SOUNDS no body can touch them.

#2 Minaska, great components, tough and great remote.

#3 Foxpro, toy like construction, not so good sounds and remote is so-so.

[Rich]

SkoalMint,
What you say is pure bull crap, but that is your problem. It isn't hard to see who your hero is. LOL, you should be on Blue color comedy show.


Jerry,
Snowcamoman has posted a ton of information concerning E callers. There are several threads in the Electronic calls forum over there at P.M.
The thread you saw was only one of many. You are right, I would imagine that all major call companies buy competitor's callers to see what is inside. Snowcamoman is not conspiring with Foxpro. FoxPro will soon leave W.T. so far in their dust that people will plainly see who the true leader is. :^

[skoalmint]

SkoalMint,
What you say is pure bull crap, but that is your problem. It isn't hard to see who your hero is. LOL, you should be on Blue color comedy show.



As written "as I see it" I have my opinions as do you. Trust me Rich If I had hero's other than God and the American soldier, It wouldn't be anyone from the Critter hunting world.

You say that foxpro will leave WT in the dust. Doubtful unless WT stops selling. Watch out for Minaska, they are up and coming! But you already know a little something about them, don't you?

Anyhow, happy hunting. and good luck in the field. :>:^

[Rich]

"You say that foxpro will leave WT in the dust. Doubtful unless WT stops selling."
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SkoalMint,
I have good news, and I have some bad news. The good news is, You have excellent taste when it comes to choice of snuff. I am not at liberty to reveal the bad news yet. :^ Tell Bill that I wish him well.

[skoalmint]

Yes thank you, it is the best snuff! Ya ya I heard of the new caller coming out.

I think it was a little silly of foxpro to let out that there will be a new caller coming out. It will only hurt potential sales that could have happened until the official release. I mean, if someone is wanting an existing caller, he would probably wait to get the latest model. And you know just as good as me that problems will come up and the release date will be pushed back.

As far as the new FX-7? coming out. I really don't think it will hurt any competitors, as they too can have new stuff coming out!;)

As far as your well wishes, I cannot pass them along. I really don't know the man but he seems to be a center piece in alot of conversation.

You know what they say, "when your at the top, everyone tries to knock you down"

:^

[Jerry]

skoalmint -

Years ago I had to ban Bill at WT from HuntSeek. His posting's were nothing than rude, condescending and just out right not asked for or wanted. That alone will keep me from ever buying his products. No matter how great someone may think they might be.

[outlaw from Idaho]

Jerry,sounds like a plan.

Hope it stops the bickering.

Bickering is to engage in a petty quarrel; to squabble.

Thats all folks. Outlaw

[Rich]

"You know what they say, "when your at the top, everyone tries to knock you down"
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Yes SkoalMint, the True leaders in the caller industry are still having that problem. :^ FoxPro has a new caller coming out? Maybe I better check that rumor out a little bit. ?;

[skoalmint]

skoalmint -

Years ago I had to ban Bill at WT from HuntSeek. His posting's were nothing than rude, condescending and just out right not asked for or wanted. That alone will keep me from ever buying his products. No matter how great someone may think they might be.


From THIS site, come on now, why would an owner of any company hang out and discuss here? I would think they would want to go where there is traffic.

Why do you think foxpro gives the Mods. at PM free junk? Because the site see's traffic (but they are on their way of self destruct) and by keeping the mods in their pocket, they get protection and are able to spew their false claims about their callers. Otherwise they probably would not sell much.

[Rich]

"Why do you think foxpro gives the Mods. at PM free junk? Because the site see's traffic (but they are on their way of self destruct) and by keeping the mods in their pocket, they get protection and are able to spew their false claims about their callers. Otherwise they probably would not sell much."
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That is a very bold statement, and also mostly false. The only call company that I have seen make false claims is W.T. I think I will go over there and check to see if Bill still has all of those false claims posted. LOL Skoal. :^

[Rich]

I just got back here after checking to see if Bill's false claims were still there. Yep, they sure are. ;)

[outlaw from Idaho]

What the heck Skoal you like W.T. Great . Some one likes Fox Pro, So what. Use what you like, I'm tired of hearing you talking about it Outlaw:{?.