View Full Version : Broadhead Poll
Mossyhorns
Mon July 19th,2004, 06:03 PM
And tell us why you prefer that type of Broadhead.......
And why you don't use the others.........
CSA
Mon July 19th,2004, 08:50 PM
Split Fire 125g Mechanical, 1 1/2 inch cutting, flys just like a field point
Myk
Mon July 19th,2004, 09:25 PM
Jak-Hammer 100gr. I want a large hole and a lot of blood.
My final straw going to mechanicals was having a perfect hit that left a few drops of blood.
I'm really disappointed in the internet crowd for badmouthing mechanicals. I think they do it simply because it's not what they use. Or they do it because they made a bad shot and they don't want to blame themselves. There's too much blind brand loyalty going around, even to the point of bad advice.
I parroted what I read to my friend who was telling me about another friend's gut shot deer that left a gut trail and died quickly.
After the deer that left no blood I tried them once and I don't think I'll go back. It may only be 3/4"-1/2" larger diameter but I didn't have a problem with 125gr 1 1/4" fixed blades, the no blood problem started when I went to 100gr 1 1/8" so a little diameter makes a big difference.
Finally, a blood trail that even I can follow.
tcoop
Mon July 19th,2004, 10:14 PM
Great Poll Mossyhorns!!
I just started using the mechanicals 3 years ago. I use the Wasp Jackhammers.
I have now taken a yearling, nice size doe, and a buck about 160-170 lbs I would guess. I'm a firm believer in them. Out of the 3 deer, the buck went the farthest, and he only went about 15-17 yards. The 1 3/4" cutting diameter really stops them.
I was very skeptical of them at first, so I did a lot of research before I went with the Jackhammers. I had heard stories about some of the others not being tough enough or not opening. The JH's have proven very tough. I have only had 1 blade break and that was because it hit the spine and dropped the doe in her tracks. Also, the blades seemed to open immediately under the skin.
I wish I remember where the site was, but there was a guy from another forum that had done extensive testing on many different broad heads. He shot them thru all kinds of things to test penetration, toughness, how soon the mechanicals opened etc. The only broad heads that did OK were the JH's.
I have been told that broad heads are not tough enough for hogs, but I would really like to give it a try.
tcoop
tcoop
Mon July 19th,2004, 10:18 PM
Hey Myk,
Glad to hear you decided to go with the Jackhammers. I knew you would like them.
tcoop
CSA
Tue July 20th,2004, 04:54 AM
I have been told that broad heads are not tough enough for hogs, but I would really like to give it a try.
tcoop
I put a Splitfire thru a hog with no problem at about 10 yards and it was a pass thru too, that piggy drop like a shack of hog meat.
Mossyhorns
Tue July 20th,2004, 09:24 AM
When i went on a hog hunt,it was suggested to me to use only cut on impact head on the hog by the outfitter.And i did get a complete pass through.
Tcoop i think i know the threads your referring too.Was the guys username (5shot) he uses steel drums rubber tires plywood to test the different heads.
One of my hunting buddies uses the Jackhammers also-Unbelieveable the wound they leave.Something like 2 1/2" cutting dia.Wicked very wicked broadhead.
Last year i tried the Magnus G5's fixed head.This year they come out with a new COI/mechanical head.I will try.And i seen on a television add a new broadhead on the market.They have an Air Foil built in the blades to stabilize arrow flight from the head also.They claim no more arrow tuning.
turtle
Tue July 20th,2004, 10:07 PM
I use plain old Thunderheads myself. They group well for me. Haven't got a deer with the bow yet so can't comment on terminal performance.
The 5shot guy has a website Broadhead tests (http://www.broadheadtests.com)
tcoop
Wed July 21st,2004, 06:07 PM
Yea guys, 5shot is it. Thanks, I'm going to go look at his site again.
tcoop
jmclark
Sat July 24th,2004, 10:54 AM
125 gr. NAP Thunderheads. Fit well on a 30 inch arrow. Still haven't killed anything with them yet. Javelina comes up in January.
Mossyhorns
Sat July 24th,2004, 03:00 PM
I have to go with the Cut on impact heads.I started out on these heads many years ago,when i first started bow hunting with a recurve.Then changed to fixed heads when i bought my first compound.Then tried the Mech's.
The tightest grouping heads i've shot are the Montec G5's and the Magnus C.O.I. heads.
CSA
Sun July 25th,2004, 06:06 AM
Here is another plus for the Splitfire,,, There is no band to hold the cutting blades in place , a flat spring is used instead and the blades are easy change.
Tifford
Tue August 10th,2004, 06:09 PM
Well, I think I might be behind the learning curve here.
I walked into the local store and asked the owner behind the counter what was the best. His reply was muzzy 100......so that was what I went with. 4 blades with a one inch diameter.
As a matter of fact the brother-in-law came over to show me his new scope just before I typed this. He is also looking for a bow so I had to take mine out. At 40 yards all five arrows (except for one) hit with in 3 to 4 inches of each other.
I might not be Robin Hood but I was proud just the same. I have to give Myk credit for putting me onto a really good release.
***Have not hunted deer yet with it becasue I just got the hoyt bow last year. I been practicing with it from time to time and now I feel confident enough to take a deer with it.
I've got some new carbon shafts that need a new head. I might have to give these wasp jackhammers a try. If there is one thing that I've come to know about this forum it is that the guys on here are experts in the field and they have a wealth of info. to share.
Tifford
tcoop
Wed August 11th,2004, 08:34 PM
Quote: "If there is one thing that I've come to know about this forum it is that the guys on here are experts in the field and they have a wealth of info. to share."
Well guys and galls,
Either we have dazzled Tifford with our brilliance, or ...........baffled him with our B.S. :blink:
tcoop
Myk
Wed August 11th,2004, 09:08 PM
My money is on the latter :)
Tifford
Wed August 11th,2004, 10:09 PM
::blush
Brilliance or good BS........as long as it works. :D
Tifford
RANGER RICK
Fri August 13th,2004, 02:37 PM
I have always used 125gr Thunderheads . Have taken two elk so far , they seem to work great , no complaints !!! @black
RR
tcoop
Sat October 9th,2004, 10:43 PM
The buck I got this year was the 4th deer I've taken with the Wasp Jack Hammers. This one cut a full size 1 3/4" hole in the skin on the way in. So they are fully open on impact.
Also, this deer went the furthest of the 4 I've shot. It only went about 50-60 yrds. This is also the only one that I didn't have a pass through on too. That is because of 4 reasons:
1) He was quartering away sharply
2) He was looking down
3) My arrow cut thru 2 heavy ribs near spine
4) The broad head then came to a stop in his neck after hitting his spinal collum in the neck
It is hard to describe, but the shot hit perfectly about where the diaphram separates the organs from the intestines. It went thru ribs, then going sharply forward and down it went thru the organs, hitting lung and grazed the heart. At this angle since he was looking down and eating, it went forward into his neck instead of out the other ribs. If you understood this, let me explain the JFK conspiracy theory to you now. :huh:
So that is the reason that I didn't have much blood to trail. The shot was high with no lower exit to let the blood out.
tcoop
tcoop
Sat October 9th,2004, 10:47 PM
Come on guys and galls, I know there are more than 7 bow hunters out there. Lets hear your vote on broad heads.
tcoop
scott
Sun October 10th,2004, 11:36 AM
Iv'e been bow hunting for 17 yrs. I started out with fixed bld. thunderheads and thought for the longest time there was nothing better then mechanicals came out. I didn't start using them until a couple of yrs. after they came out and boy I'm glad I did. Iv'e havested alot of deer and have had all pass through shots except one. the one that didn't was because the buck was courtering away and I had to place my point of entry farther back and caught some ribs which had shattered with the chisel point and still had enough penitration to puncture the lungs. The mechanicals I use are sidewinders. this year I'm going to try a new cut on impact mechanical by eastman there called firstcut st3 85/100 titanium three bld. I'll let you know how they do.
tcoop
Sun October 10th,2004, 09:12 PM
Scott,
I don't think I've seen you post before, so welcome to HuntSeek. Great to have you aboard. Where are you from?
tcoop
Mossyhorns
Wed October 13th,2004, 01:46 PM
I don't have a single favorite broadhead.I keep buying different types and trying them out.As long as they are built solid,fly true,i like'em. Thought i was going to try the Montec Tekan's,but had to switch to the Firstcuts,still have the Montec G5's,and (tcoop) i have the jackhammers,back ups i have the Bear cut on impact heads and the steelforce heads.One muzzy left.
BigJ
Thu February 24th,2005, 12:57 AM
I guess I will jump start this topic again. I used Spitfires 100 last year but with all of this talk about Jackhammers from guys I personally know are good hunters I may just give them a try.
Hey tcoop and myk do you guys have any problems with the "o" ring moving or anything like that?
I must say the 1 3/4 in cutting diameter looks very enticing!
Thanks,
BigJ
Myk
Thu February 24th,2005, 02:23 AM
Watching the deer drop in sight is very enticing too :)
If I could pull more weight I'd probably even look for a bigger head. But I think I'm about at the limit for 1 3/4".
BigJ
Thu February 24th,2005, 02:53 PM
With a 33in draw length and 70lbs I'm already shooting telephone poles as it is! I don't think I want to go any heavier with my arrows, I'm at 553grn now so I will stick with the 100's
Right now with my set up I'm at about 258-262fps and that's just fine with me.
Does anybody remember the old 2 blade spitfires? they have a 1 1/2in cutting diameter. I still have a few left but I just don't use them since the 3 blade versions came out.
tcoop
Fri February 25th,2005, 10:17 PM
BigJ,
I've had no problems at all with the O ring moving. I've even re-used it several times. I have replaced one O ring that broke. I do carry spares in my bow case. I have had to replace one of the blades. It got bent this year on a rock, after passing thru a possum. They sharpen up and I have taken 4 deer with the same broad head so far.
tcoop
Mossyhorns
Sat February 26th,2005, 04:11 PM
I like the three bladed broadheads for the fact they open a wound better.I like shooting the cut on impact heads but with the bleeder blades in to open the wound more,to allow a better bloodtrail.
tcoop
Tue November 1st,2005, 11:55 PM
I need to add to the list of kills. This year I shot a buck @ 47 yards. Went thru thin part of rear of shoulder blade, cut thru rib, thru center of heart, out rib and stopped on opposite leg. Believe it or not w/ all of that this deer went further than any of the others, about 120 yards. You could see the 1 3/4" cuts right in the center of the heart. Left a real good blood trial. Oh, and none of the blades broke, but I will prob. relpace them, because I'm pretty sure they have all ben used and sharpened before.
tcoop
Merle
Tue April 11th,2006, 02:49 AM
First I must admit I do not have much bow experience. Oregon law does not permit anything other than a broadhead be used. Also in Oregon we cannot rifle hunt elk during the rut. So a couple times (without success so far) each year I take my Hoyt Raptor along with 100 Gr. muzzy 3 bladded broadheads and try to talk one of those big beautiful Roosevelt Bulls into bow shooting range. If I were a younger guy I think I could really get into bow hunting. I must admit at my age now I feel much more confident with a rifle.
;) :D :laugh:
tcoop
Thu April 13th,2006, 10:53 AM
Merle,
I used to feel the same way, not having confidence in myself with the bow. What changed that is I started doing 3-D archery shoots. You walk around on paths and shoot from stakes at 3-D targets at unknown ranges. It helps your shooting and judging distances. Not to mention, the fact that it has strengthed my shoulders for the shot.
I am now completely confident, if a deer comes into range, I can get it. I have also expaned the range I will shoot. I used to only shoot to 25 or 30 yards max. Now I will shoot up to 45.
If you check around at archery shops, I think there would be 3-D shoots in your area.
tcoop
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