Myk
Tue August 24th,2004, 05:16 PM
The number is supposed to be limited to 15,000 this year (increase from last year).
They issued them on a stupid first come first serve phone call (it should be a lottery or sold through outfitters) and sold through Bass Pro. The system messed up and told some people they were sold out when they weren't.
They did sell out all 15,000 tags over night though.
The first rumor I've heard is that they were calling people who got the false message and offering them tags. I understood that, the state screwed up. I don't think an extra thousand or two will make that big of a difference.
These rumors were mostly filled with "friends of friends", but it did also come from a NR who said he got the state to tell him that after a lot of pressing.
The next rumor I from that same guy was that he called Bass Pro to check. They were ready to send him another tag! This wasn't a friend of a friend.
Part of all the rumors ties into an outfitters organization who sued AZ for limiting NR tags for big game. IL is afraid of getting sued.
The problems I have with this is that they did not implement an emergency rule to increase or remove the limit so we have no say in it. If true, once again the ILDNR removes due process of the law.
Those 15,000+ NR hunters are not paying $225 to hunt does or even young bucks. They are going after trophies. Most of those NR hunters will be going to the same three counties.
Can those counties handle an unknown number of trophy bucks getting taken? Aren't residents limited to 2 bucks a year for that very reason? Didn't eastern IL have a problem because of the OTC tags being used for only bucks?
We already know what happens when we issue unlimited amounts of either sex tags.
Residents are still limited to the amount of OTC tags printed, once they're gone, they're gone. Why should NRs get no limits on the amount of tags issued?
The more I hear the more it sounds like they did remove the caps.
Is IL selling out IL deer hunters in favor of the guides and outfitters, much like they sold out the southern IL duck hunters to favor the clubs? I'm not finding any answers and I don't suspect I will until it's too late. But judging by last year's southern duck hunt, I wouldn't put it past them.
I'm thinking Blago is using Bumsfeld to sell out IL hunters and our deer herd to balance the budget. I bet we see nothing from the increase sales, that's a pretty safe bet since we didn't see anything when they increased the price.
They issued them on a stupid first come first serve phone call (it should be a lottery or sold through outfitters) and sold through Bass Pro. The system messed up and told some people they were sold out when they weren't.
They did sell out all 15,000 tags over night though.
The first rumor I've heard is that they were calling people who got the false message and offering them tags. I understood that, the state screwed up. I don't think an extra thousand or two will make that big of a difference.
These rumors were mostly filled with "friends of friends", but it did also come from a NR who said he got the state to tell him that after a lot of pressing.
The next rumor I from that same guy was that he called Bass Pro to check. They were ready to send him another tag! This wasn't a friend of a friend.
Part of all the rumors ties into an outfitters organization who sued AZ for limiting NR tags for big game. IL is afraid of getting sued.
The problems I have with this is that they did not implement an emergency rule to increase or remove the limit so we have no say in it. If true, once again the ILDNR removes due process of the law.
Those 15,000+ NR hunters are not paying $225 to hunt does or even young bucks. They are going after trophies. Most of those NR hunters will be going to the same three counties.
Can those counties handle an unknown number of trophy bucks getting taken? Aren't residents limited to 2 bucks a year for that very reason? Didn't eastern IL have a problem because of the OTC tags being used for only bucks?
We already know what happens when we issue unlimited amounts of either sex tags.
Residents are still limited to the amount of OTC tags printed, once they're gone, they're gone. Why should NRs get no limits on the amount of tags issued?
The more I hear the more it sounds like they did remove the caps.
Is IL selling out IL deer hunters in favor of the guides and outfitters, much like they sold out the southern IL duck hunters to favor the clubs? I'm not finding any answers and I don't suspect I will until it's too late. But judging by last year's southern duck hunt, I wouldn't put it past them.
I'm thinking Blago is using Bumsfeld to sell out IL hunters and our deer herd to balance the budget. I bet we see nothing from the increase sales, that's a pretty safe bet since we didn't see anything when they increased the price.