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Bill Yox Fri December 12th,2003 10:15 PM

Anti-freeze Coyote And Fox Sets?
 
How are you guys keeping your sets from freezing? Im asking what you guys are having good results with, not just something you heard of. Anyone still trapping? By the way, I got another male red in the yard today!

tcoop Sat December 13th,2003 04:19 PM

Anti-freeze Coyote And Fox Sets?
 
Hi Bill,

Way to go on the fox.

I use rock salt. However, I've never got a K9 though. The problem with it is that it leaves the area around the set looking wet, even when the rest of the area isn't. I have had 2 step on the jaw of the trap, and I have a buddy that got 2 coyote last year using salt.

tcoop


Bill Yox Sat December 13th,2003 11:23 PM

Anti-freeze Coyote And Fox Sets?
 
Hey Coop...I got another male red again today after that one yesterday, again in the yard. Im currently mixing damp dirt with drying salt and some sand. I learned this years ago but never tried it, but then was told this again by Kevin Kishel. Hes right, it seems to work well. I was using the buckwheat hulls but theyd still freeze up after the daytime thaw and nighttime freeze. Now we are getting snow, so I dont mind if the salt doesnt allow the snow to build up too much. All these fox have been caught in 7 sets within 200 yards of eachother in my yard. Thats 1 grey, 1 coyote and 11 reds. This was my first coyote after many near misses. Im just worried that the salt is not the best, or that theyll smell it, etc. Im happy with the last two days catch, but still wonder if theres a better way.

reddyred Wed December 31st,2003 05:31 PM

Anti-freeze Coyote And Fox Sets?
 
this topic may be stale but i thought it was worth a line or two. i live in western maryland. about 10 miles to my southeast lives the best fox trapper this side of the mississippi. you all know who he is or have heard the name. when i asked him this very question not more than 4 days ago he told me to use anti-freeze crystals, one tablespoon mixed with your sifted dirt. the fields out here right now are damp not snow covered anymore, and overnight the ground freezes and stays frozen until around mid morning when it thaws. the crystals are keeping the set soil damp through the night. from my personal experience i first used an anti-freeze powder mixed with damp dirt. this does not work. i ended up with some #2 victors frozen so stiff you could step on the pan pry up the dog and the jaws didnt move at all. im guessing the powder is meant as a treatment to bone dry dirt pre-mixed and taken to the set. the crystals however i am mixing at the set with the damp soil dug up from the dirthole. i usually dont "bed" my traps at dirtholes because of the type i use but i have been lining the bottom of the bed and inner jaws with chopped up field grass( works like stoes cover hulls ), plus i dont need as much dirt then to cover the trap.

Bill Yox Thu January 1st,2004 09:18 PM

Anti-freeze Coyote And Fox Sets?
 
Reddyred, I was using grass under the trap and salt mixed with dry dirt and sand, but the grass began to rot, if you can believe that one! We have been getting teens, then rain, then freezing, snow, etc etc. Nothing short of rebedding every couple of days has worked for me. I just bought the crystals today, but to be honest, those big white flakes dont look like theyll do the job and blend in. I wanna wax some dirt for next year, but Im worried about how to store it all summer so it doesnt clump up. Boy I miss October, long hair be damned! hahaha!

reddyred Fri January 2nd,2004 06:24 PM

Anti-freeze Coyote And Fox Sets?
 
if the grass you are using for bedding is green its going to smell up the set and get slimy also. i use dead browned field grass, hay and hollow reed grass will freeze. the anti-freeze crystal i use is by leggetts. it looks identical to rock salt except it is pure white. if your crystal is too big to pass through your sifter youll have to sift some dirt and add crystals in layers, but very thin layers so you have a good mix. remember as long as the soil stays damp its not frozen and its business as usual. and i think you are on the right track with the dirt/salt/sand mixture, at least you are experimenting and thats what it takes, but i think you can simplify with equal if not better results. heres a trick for you..mix your antifreeze agent with some soil just as you would at the set, then put it in your refrigerator freezer overnight. if it freezes you know to add more antifreeze.

Jerry Fri January 1st,2010 06:25 PM

Re: Anti-freeze Coyote And Fox Sets?
 
So are you using the anti-freeze crystals to get the ground clear for the set? I'm just not sure what you are trying to achieve.


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